Polygamy...child abuse? or religious freedom?

[pam]

Although we don't know (and never will know) the full story, it's now clear that literally hundreds of young women below the age of consent have been kept uneducated, isolated and forced to marry older men, joining multi-wife families.

These conditions have been abetted by every adult in the sect, obviously, who raised their girls to believe in the "rightness" of their faith.

Is this religious freedom? Or child abuse?

[Hope]

It's child abuse. It's using religion as a sheild for enslaving a group of people and making them conform to the will of the sect. It's a cult, not a religion. When there is no freedom of choice for even just one of the members of the group then it is a cult. Religion should always be a free choice.

[SoberGuy]

Ah, it's a cult because it's not one's approved religion. Or is it a cult because it's an extremist sect of this particular religion? Interesting, indeed.

Didn't people marry young? I mean, you know, a few hundred years ago. We could go back to Biblical times, though I'd have to do some searching and finding references.

For the sake of playing devil's advocate, when did things change? Why was it OK years ago to marry at 14, and today it's not?

[AngelEyes]

I am leaning more towards child abuse. I am so glad they got the children out of the situation. I seen some of the women had a choice to go back or to a womens shelter.. most choose to go back without their children.

[Hope]

Originally Posted by SoberGuy

Ah, it's a cult because it's not one's approved religion. Or is it a cult because it's an extremist sect of this particular religion? Interesting, indeed.

Didn't people marry young? I mean, you know, a few hundred years ago. We could go back to Biblical times, though I'd have to do some searching and finding references.

For the sake of playing devil's advocate, when did things change? Why was it OK years ago to marry at 14, and today it's not?

I believe that when you are brainwashed and not given the choice of whether to become part of it or not, that makes it a cult. When activities go on that are unlawful within the sect, that makes it a cult.

There is a legal age of consent in each state, if you are having sex with people under that age you are breaking the law. I would suppose that the law regarding age that one can marry would go along with the age of consent. Some of these girls were under that age.

[pam]

A quick search brought this:



However, my experiences with a couple of Christian churches as a child make this sound familiar.

[SoberGuy]

Originally Posted by Hope

I believe that when you are brainwashed and not given the choice of whether to become part of it or not, that makes it a cult. When activities go on that are unlawful within the sect, that makes it a cult.

There is a legal age of consent in each state, if you are having sex with people under that age you are breaking the law. I would suppose that the law regarding age that one can marry would go along with the age of consent. Some of these girls were under that age.

So at what point did things change? When did we go from marrying at 14 (if not younger) to having a legal age of consent?

[Nordik]

Originally Posted by pam

A quick search brought this:



However, my experiences with a couple of Christian churches as a child make this sound familiar.

Sorry.... that reminded me of this that I saw the other day.....

YouTube - Bill Maher on Religious Cults, The Pope Catholic Church

YouTube - Bill Maher on Religious Cults, The Pope Catholic Church

Just to lighten the thread a little..... I shall return with a proper post shortly

[Hope]

Originally Posted by SoberGuy

So at what point did things change? When did we go from marrying at 14 (if not younger) to having a legal age of consent?

I can't answer that, but in my lifetime I don't know anyone who married prior to the age of 18...I guess we could look it up on the internet.

[pam]

Throughout time, many young girls were married at/before puberty. It happens today in many nations around the world.

[DrLeftover]

Originally Posted by pam

Throughout time, many young girls were married at/before puberty. It happens today in many nations around the world.

So does Female Circumcision (AKA, Female Genital Mutilation) , and in many cases it is done to the young girls in the villages by the older women of the villages "for their own good" or because it is tradition, or they think Muhammad wants it that way, whatever.... that doesn't make it right.

[Hope]

Originally Posted by DrLeftover

So does Female Circumcision (AKA, Female Genital Mutilation) , and in many cases it is done to the young girls in the villages by the older women of the villages "for their own good" or because it is tradition, or they think Muhammad wants it that way, whatever.... that doesn't make it right.

Very much agreed.

[pam]

Absolutely! Another example of parentally performed child abuse, although I've never seen a Koran reference to this. Supposedly, it's to make a woman "clean." The reality is that it destroys her sex drive and keeps her "chaste," and devoted only to a husband.


Don't GET me STARTED!

[DrLeftover]

Too late.

But it comes under the general heading of Child Abuse as a Religious Freedom.

For more information, check out the Glossary listing at http://bruthadeep.com/f4/sexglossary.htm

And for those that don't know. It IS done in the US and the UK and other Western countries by predominately African and Muslim families, sometimes with No medical supervision. And it is NOT reported by the family physicians, many of whom are also either African or Muslim, as under Sharia Law, the girl is Property and Has No Rights.

Another question is why the Silence from the US Civil Rights Crowd on the issue?

[pam]

Why? Oh, I dunno....perhaps because we're all too paralyzed by POLITICAL CORRECTNESS? And because the people who perform this barbaric act squeal that it's their CULTURE and they have a RIGHT to it?